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	<title>Comments on: Why Do Mainstream Medicine Apologists Attack Colloidal Silver?</title>
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		<title>By: Az R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Az R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 08:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would guess that it probably works if the mainstream media is against it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would guess that it probably works if the mainstream media is against it.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 08:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As was already pointed out most of your sources are crap, just like colloidal silver.  Real medicine attacks it because it&#039;s dangerous quackery.  Starting question with phrases like &quot;mainstream medical apologists&quot; is an extremely rude way to begin a question.  I believe the term for it is &quot;weasel words.&quot;  It doesn&#039;t work, get over it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As was already pointed out most of your sources are crap, just like colloidal silver.  Real medicine attacks it because it&#8217;s dangerous quackery.  Starting question with phrases like &#8220;mainstream medical apologists&#8221; is an extremely rude way to begin a question.  I believe the term for it is &#8220;weasel words.&#8221;  It doesn&#8217;t work, get over it.</p>
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		<title>By: gazeygoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>gazeygoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 07:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, your Fox News link is broken, and does not work. Mainstream news outlets tend generally to not have accurate reports of anything to do with biological, medical, or chemical science - unless this contains links or references to any original publications, I&#039;d flat out discount it.
The physorg source is interesting, but does not contain proper references to the original papers, however, what they&#039;re describing is not colloidal silver. Far from it. It&#039;s an extremely complex system of nanoparticles coated in a water-soluble polymer and stabilized in a complex organic growth medium. While the description in this article is vague, and they do not link to the original research or provide a reference, based on this description this preparation would be extremely challenging and expensive for even the most talented CBEMS Ph.D student to prepare. The synthesis of even polymer-coated liposomes is extremely challenging.
The NCBI piece is somewhat interesting, however their stock solution of silver is 3000-30,000 times more concentrated that colloidal silver products sold on the internet. While they work with dilutions thereof, even at their lowest effective doses they still appear to be several hundred times to several thousand times higher concentrations that are sold out there.
The difference between external and internal application is extremely profound. I can apply ispropyl alcohol to a cut on my hand to prevent an infection. If I were to drink enough isopropyl alcohol to deliver the same amount to that cut from the inside of my body (or alternatively, any other area of my body), I would be very, VERY dead.
In the EPA document you cite, the 90-99% elimination rate is for silver nitrate. This is not a silver colloid in any sense, and has nothing to do with the filtration rate of nanoscale particles, or their ability to evade the RES and persist in the body for a substantial amount of time.
In short, from the sources I can inspect, you&#039;ve completely misinterpereted the results in favor of your particular idea, in one case material that has absolutely nothing to do with colloidal silver as it is known to the alternative medicine community. The other material is improperly sourced, and I&#039;ll be honest, if you&#039;ve shown an ability to comprehend and interpret like you have with the material I can see, I doubt you&#039;ve done better with what I can&#039;t see.
Oh, and thank you, my bottle of Cipro cost $1.60.
You might take a look at this as well, where colloidal silver failed to demonstrate any efficacy against bacteria in a standard test: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15114…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, your Fox News link is broken, and does not work. Mainstream news outlets tend generally to not have accurate reports of anything to do with biological, medical, or chemical science &#8211; unless this contains links or references to any original publications, I&#8217;d flat out discount it.<br />
The physorg source is interesting, but does not contain proper references to the original papers, however, what they&#8217;re describing is not colloidal silver. Far from it. It&#8217;s an extremely complex system of nanoparticles coated in a water-soluble polymer and stabilized in a complex organic growth medium. While the description in this article is vague, and they do not link to the original research or provide a reference, based on this description this preparation would be extremely challenging and expensive for even the most talented CBEMS Ph.D student to prepare. The synthesis of even polymer-coated liposomes is extremely challenging.<br />
The NCBI piece is somewhat interesting, however their stock solution of silver is 3000-30,000 times more concentrated that colloidal silver products sold on the internet. While they work with dilutions thereof, even at their lowest effective doses they still appear to be several hundred times to several thousand times higher concentrations that are sold out there.<br />
The difference between external and internal application is extremely profound. I can apply ispropyl alcohol to a cut on my hand to prevent an infection. If I were to drink enough isopropyl alcohol to deliver the same amount to that cut from the inside of my body (or alternatively, any other area of my body), I would be very, VERY dead.<br />
In the EPA document you cite, the 90-99% elimination rate is for silver nitrate. This is not a silver colloid in any sense, and has nothing to do with the filtration rate of nanoscale particles, or their ability to evade the RES and persist in the body for a substantial amount of time.<br />
In short, from the sources I can inspect, you&#8217;ve completely misinterpereted the results in favor of your particular idea, in one case material that has absolutely nothing to do with colloidal silver as it is known to the alternative medicine community. The other material is improperly sourced, and I&#8217;ll be honest, if you&#8217;ve shown an ability to comprehend and interpret like you have with the material I can see, I doubt you&#8217;ve done better with what I can&#8217;t see.<br />
Oh, and thank you, my bottle of Cipro cost $1.60.<br />
You might take a look at this as well, where colloidal silver failed to demonstrate any efficacy against bacteria in a standard test: <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15114…" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15114…</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gary Y</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Y</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 07:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it worked, Big Pharma would be on it in a flash (they don&#039;t care about patents, they do own most of the herb pill companies after all!). 
If it worked, developing countries&#039; governments would snap it up to cure their population, (no need for Big Pharma&#039;s costly drugs.) 
If it worked, you&#039;d be able to rely on capitalism to package it up, jazz it up and sell it to the highest bidder. (A major shop chain does a roaring trade in berries that I can pick from the fields for free).
If it worked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it worked, Big Pharma would be on it in a flash (they don&#8217;t care about patents, they do own most of the herb pill companies after all!).<br />
If it worked, developing countries&#8217; governments would snap it up to cure their population, (no need for Big Pharma&#8217;s costly drugs.)<br />
If it worked, you&#8217;d be able to rely on capitalism to package it up, jazz it up and sell it to the highest bidder. (A major shop chain does a roaring trade in berries that I can pick from the fields for free).<br />
If it worked.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhianna     Returns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rhianna     Returns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 07:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simply put, I agree, it just doesn&#039;t work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simply put, I agree, it just doesn&#8217;t work.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony I</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony I</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 06:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One reason may be that proponents of colloidal silver use weasel words, like &quot;mainstream medicine apologists&quot;, to spin or alter people&#039;s perception of an issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One reason may be that proponents of colloidal silver use weasel words, like &#8220;mainstream medicine apologists&#8221;, to spin or alter people&#8217;s perception of an issue.</p>
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		<title>By: TheGirlW</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheGirlW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 06:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Colloidal silver is extremely dangerous. They used to think it could cure everything, but it actually cures nothing, it might have a placebo effect but it&#039;s doing more harm than good. Search google images for the blue man or colloidal silver skin, and you will see that it makes your skin turn greyish then bluey grey. All of the silver is toxic and building up inside you. If it makes your skin grey, it is also damaging your internal organs. Unfortunately, this damage is slow to undo itself or you may just never go back to normal (like the blue man). Colloidal silver is a scam and is extremely dangerous, the scammers selling it prey on people who want a miracle cure for all sorts of ailments and don&#039;t bother to do a quick internet search to see if it is safe or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Colloidal silver is extremely dangerous. They used to think it could cure everything, but it actually cures nothing, it might have a placebo effect but it&#8217;s doing more harm than good. Search google images for the blue man or colloidal silver skin, and you will see that it makes your skin turn greyish then bluey grey. All of the silver is toxic and building up inside you. If it makes your skin grey, it is also damaging your internal organs. Unfortunately, this damage is slow to undo itself or you may just never go back to normal (like the blue man). Colloidal silver is a scam and is extremely dangerous, the scammers selling it prey on people who want a miracle cure for all sorts of ailments and don&#8217;t bother to do a quick internet search to see if it is safe or not.</p>
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